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Cam belt/oil change?

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Cam belt/oil change?

Postby Mickcafc » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:04 pm

Hi all, I'm having the cam belt/waterpump and whatever else needed done in a couple of weeks, and maybe the 0 ring, does she need an oil change at the same time? I had a change 500 miles or so ago with fully synthetic but I am lead to believe I shouldn't have asked for that anyway. If thats true whats the best oil to get them to use (if she needs it)? Cheers guys, Mick.
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Re: Cam belt/oil change?

Postby Lazza » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:12 pm

For your Mk1 Wayne usually recommends semi-synth but fully synth is fine. Certainly not worth changing it over now.
For the work you are having done there should be no need to replace the oil.
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Re: Cam belt/oil change?

Postby BenF » Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:51 pm

What he ^ said, but dependent on what the 'whatever else is needed' adds up to. If thats a sump gasket, then it would etc.
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Re: Cam belt/oil change?

Postby Mickcafc » Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:40 pm

Thanks. Should I use the synthetic next time now I've started or whats the best option?
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Postby Lazza » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:50 pm

You can use whatever you like. Synth, semi & mineral oils are all mineral based anyway so can mix without a problem.
Personally I prefer a good full synth in Mk1s but Wayne disagrees with me :coffee:
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Re: Cam belt/oil change?

Postby BenF » Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:01 pm

Depends on how often you change it buddy - a good full synth I'd run to 10k or two seasons. Semi to 6-7, mineral 3-4k.
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Postby nedski » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:07 am

^ +1 what Ben said
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Re: Cam belt/oil change?

Postby binarypunk » Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:25 am

Get whichever is in 'the sale' at eurocarparts at the time... Last month is was semi for £12/5ltr, this month it is full synth for £13...
The most important thing is to replace it and the filter regularly, on schedule.
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Re: Cam belt/oil change?

Postby Mazda Mender » Wed Feb 19, 2014 8:07 am

Lazza wrote:You can use whatever you like. Synth, semi & mineral oils are all mineral based anyway so can mix without a problem.
Personally I prefer a good full synth in Mk1s but Wayne disagrees with me :coffee:

:laughing-rolling:
The car in standard form was designed to run on semi synth, boosted is a different story which i recommend fully no matter which version, in standared form i would recommend a engine flush ,more so on the MK 1's to keep those tappets nice and clean so you get no build up of used old tacky sticky oil makeing them noisey.
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Re: Cam belt/oil change?

Postby Lazza » Wed Feb 19, 2014 10:15 am

Wayne wrote:
Lazza wrote:You can use whatever you like. Synth, semi & mineral oils are all mineral based anyway so can mix without a problem.
Personally I prefer a good full synth in Mk1s but Wayne disagrees with me :coffee:

:laughing-rolling:
The car in standard form was designed to run on semi synth, boosted is a different story which i recommend fully no matter which version, in standared form i would recommend a engine flush ,more so on the MK 1's to keep those tappets nice and clean so you get no build up of used old tacky sticky oil makeing them noisey.
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We do actually agree but in different ways. You prefer semi and an oil flush whereas I prefer full synth which should mean no need for oil flush. I just don't like oil flushes on older engines unless they really need it.
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Re: Cam belt/oil change?

Postby Mazda Mender » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:09 am

Lazza wrote:
Wayne wrote:
Lazza wrote:You can use whatever you like. Synth, semi & mineral oils are all mineral based anyway so can mix without a problem.
Personally I prefer a good full synth in Mk1s but Wayne disagrees with me :coffee:

:laughing-rolling:
The car in standard form was designed to run on semi synth, boosted is a different story which i recommend fully no matter which version, in standared form i would recommend a engine flush ,more so on the MK 1's to keep those tappets nice and clean so you get no build up of used old tacky sticky oil makeing them noisey.
M-m

We do actually agree but in different ways. You prefer semi and an oil flush whereas I prefer full synth which should mean no need for oil flush. I just don't like oil flushes on older engines unless they really need it.

There is no need to do it at every oil change, but when you get one that has not been done for 3 years(oil change) then there is a need for it to be done, once on top of it, then every other service is good like anyifreeze and so on.
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Re: Cam belt/oil change?

Postby BenF » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:12 am

Wayne wrote: ...when you get one that has not been done for 3 years(oil change)


That means YOU, Ian :laughing-rolling:
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Re: Cam belt/oil change?

Postby Speedy » Wed Feb 19, 2014 11:38 am

BenF wrote:
Wayne wrote: ...when you get one that has not been done for 3 years(oil change)


That means YOU, Ian :laughing-rolling:


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Re: Cam belt/oil change?

Postby Mickcafc » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:08 pm

Confused.com here, My old 5 (65000) only does about 1000 miles a year, maybe double that this year if I get her out to Norway. Summer before last had a full service at Sulston hills then about a 1000 miles ago had all the oils changed at MX5parts. So surely she wont need an engine flush or doesnt that have anything to do with changing oil regularly? I just assumed regular changing flushes it. When should I get an oil change next? And should I get a flush? Does oil deteriate when it sits for a year or so with little use? I thought the dearest would be the best. God I have a lot to learn.......cheers guys.
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Re: Cam belt/oil change?

Postby binarypunk » Wed Feb 19, 2014 4:30 pm

Oils (and most fluids) do indeed deteriorate over time. The service interval on your car is 6k or 1 year whichever comes first. Stick to that and you're fine....even if it has done 1 mile, you should still do the service every 12 months.

If you have HLA rattle (a second or so tappety noise on startup from cold) then you might benefit from a flush, but otherwise and if you change the oil regularly, there is no need.
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