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Greetings and welcome to menders, this site was built for every owner that might need her to help keep those bills low and also keep them on the road where they belong, she is run by very passionate enthusiasts owners for passionate enthusiastic owners, see her like a on line garage, there is a lot of tech stuff hopefully explained for everyone to use, if there is something you cannot get your head around, or you feel that there is a strong walk through guide missing that needs creating by one of us or from yourselves, please let us know, we are also on false book and youtube, which as short tech vids to help, and again if you feel there is a vid that would help please get it touch.
the menders is free, but like everything there is a cost to run things and bills( we are just happy its not a heating cost), so if we have saved you hundreds, please throw a small donation in the pot so we can keep on going to carry on helping others in the same way .
*** we are currently looking for a sponsor for this year, so if you have the passion and can see this sites worth to everyone , please get in touch and step forward to help***
And thank heavens that we are now on the way back up the brighter ,warmer longer days, "come on summer", and lets see those project builds.
M-m
New battery time...
Re: New battery time...
Hm. Sounds like they make you really work for it. Almost worth going on their mailing list just in case. Although, I get enough spam emails as it is...
Ricolas
UK registered MX5 1991 Mariner Blue pretty much all original!
Beckenham, Kent
UK registered MX5 1991 Mariner Blue pretty much all original!
Beckenham, Kent
Re: New battery time...
Co-incidentally, the new battery seems to have made the car somewhat perkier which is good. I could of course be imagining this.
Ricolas
UK registered MX5 1991 Mariner Blue pretty much all original!
Beckenham, Kent
UK registered MX5 1991 Mariner Blue pretty much all original!
Beckenham, Kent
- IanParsons
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Re: New battery time...
Perhaps the new battery is not causing the alternator to work so hard, they do absorb quite a bit of power, or perhaps a better spark as the voltage is higher.
1998 NB 1.8i
Re: New battery time...
That was I was thinking, but I was a little unsure about whether to put it forwards as a theory!
Ricolas
UK registered MX5 1991 Mariner Blue pretty much all original!
Beckenham, Kent
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Re: New battery time...
Oh definitely...mine was the same - a duff battery saps a lot of juice and the alternator drags on the engine.
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Re: New battery time...
Just to add to the comments about Westco battery. I have 3 dead ones in my garage.
I bought a silver line one from Halfords in Nov and seemed to be good.
However, this afternoon I couldn't get the car out of the garage as it was completely dead, after not driving the car for 6 weeks.
Dropped it off at Halfords and they tested it, saying it's completely drained.
Left it with them on charge over night to see if it holds or they will replace, as it's got a 5yr warranty.
I bought a silver line one from Halfords in Nov and seemed to be good.
However, this afternoon I couldn't get the car out of the garage as it was completely dead, after not driving the car for 6 weeks.
Dropped it off at Halfords and they tested it, saying it's completely drained.
Left it with them on charge over night to see if it holds or they will replace, as it's got a 5yr warranty.
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Re: New battery time...
The problem with batteries on these cars is
a) they have an abnormally high dark current for some reason I can't fathom
b) they don't get used much, so they drain a lot between uses (deep-cycling) which most standard batteries don't like - standard lead-acid like it least (your halfords, or varta, or even 'absorbed glass mat' which is just a lead-acid with a bit of fibreglass in it to stop sloshing
c) it is in the boot, so the designers made it as small as possible...meaning it has less battery capacity than most cars of comparable engine capacity, adding to the deep-cycling problem...and a funny shape and polarity...meaning that for most battery manufacturers it's not economically viable to make so prices are high
a) they have an abnormally high dark current for some reason I can't fathom
b) they don't get used much, so they drain a lot between uses (deep-cycling) which most standard batteries don't like - standard lead-acid like it least (your halfords, or varta, or even 'absorbed glass mat' which is just a lead-acid with a bit of fibreglass in it to stop sloshing
c) it is in the boot, so the designers made it as small as possible...meaning it has less battery capacity than most cars of comparable engine capacity, adding to the deep-cycling problem...and a funny shape and polarity...meaning that for most battery manufacturers it's not economically viable to make so prices are high
Jon - UK Mk1 1.6 1993 Classic Red
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Re: New battery time...
Mine has been used twice since Christmas, mainly due to a combination of work, weather and the thing not starting.
It still turns over perfectly though and so far I'm very happy with my Bosch battery.
It still turns over perfectly though and so far I'm very happy with my Bosch battery.
Lazza
2001 Mk2.5 MX5 1.8 Sport
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2001 Mk2.5 MX5 1.8 Sport
Hard Dog Deuce
GAZ Gold Pro
Mk3 seats
17” OZ Racing Superturissmo wheels (for the toad)
15” Rota Circuit 10 wheels (for track use)
Re: New battery time...
Been looking at info on batteries here and everywhere else I can find. It's a bit of a minefield and it seems that the Mk 1 needs to be very specific dimensions which are hard to find. The one that died on me was a 014 battery that I have been told belongs in a mini (classic I think) but fitted in the tray perfectly though didn't have any vent holes. The other pain is the polarity being correct most are the other way round.... Guess I am just going to have to stump up for the lion one recommended here.
Before I go for it I saw a couple that would do but won't fit in the tray, is the tray necessary?
Before I go for it I saw a couple that would do but won't fit in the tray, is the tray necessary?
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Re: New battery time...
Yolo wrote: is the tray necessary?
Very. The tray and the clamp can be changed quite cheaply to accommodate a different battery (063 is a common choice) but that doesn't help with the polarity. Only the Panasonic, the Westco and the Lion are perfect fits that I've heard of.
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Re: New battery time...
Jon I am pretty sure you are right. I do have a 049 battery that is the right polarity but mms to deep for the tray and a good inch taller which brings it a bit closer to the body than I would like.... So it's a no go just going to have to stump up me thinks.....
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Re: New battery time...
I've just fitted the lion battery. It's a perfect fit. Unbolt the original Panasonic and replace, start car. Simple.
Steve
Steve
2004 Mx5 Sport
Re: New battery time...
stevehh wrote:I've just fitted the lion battery. It's a perfect fit. Unbolt the original Panasonic and replace, start car. Simple.
Steve
Was just looking at it online and the terminals also seem to be the wrong way round? Do you just mount it backwards?
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Re: New battery time...
Saw this one at halfords will fit tray and terminals right way round but is higher, any thoughts?
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... 65762#tab1
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... 65762#tab1
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Re: New battery time...
It will be your current battery that's the wrong way round... As Steve says, the dimensions and polarity are all a perfect match for the original Panasonic battery...
The wrong height means you need a different clamp bolt...and possibly a different clamp too depending if the casing is the right dimensions at the top. However, if someone has already crammed the wrong size battery in there they might already have been changed. Also if, like mine, you have the carpet cover it might not fit properly.
The wrong height means you need a different clamp bolt...and possibly a different clamp too depending if the casing is the right dimensions at the top. However, if someone has already crammed the wrong size battery in there they might already have been changed. Also if, like mine, you have the carpet cover it might not fit properly.
Jon - UK Mk1 1.6 1993 Classic Red
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